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[澳洲移民] 给YMJ发信了,回复是这样的。。。

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发表于 2011-10-21 13:29:43 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
6月17日,主副,工程类4个7,7月4号就further了
给YMJ发信问为什么比我晚申请的人都下来了,我们至今无动静
CO回信说:由于我当时填表时候关于AFP那一项选的是还没有申请AFP,所以导致了"Schedule Refusal"
这就是我比别人慢的原因。。。至于关于这个Schedule Refusal的下文,要看他的Supervisor什么时候给他指示他才能继续办事,但是不幸的是他也不知道他的Supervisor什么时候能给他进一步指示。。。
可是我说我已经把AFP做好了补给你了呀。。。CO无回信。。。
求教孙版,还有有经验的各位,这是啥情况呀。。。是不是YMJ的托词呢,还是怎么了这是。。。还要等到啥时候他的Supervisor才能给他指示呀。。。:L: :L: :L:




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发表于 2011-10-21 14:26:39 | 显示全部楼层
不靠谱的ymj
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发表于 2011-10-21 16:40:59 | 显示全部楼层
you can only prepare for MRT
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发表于 2011-10-22 13:08:36 | 显示全部楼层
在澳州afp是罪简单的,主副两个人就没一个去做的?难道不知道这个属于递签必须的材料吗?
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发表于 2011-10-22 13:42:41 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 binzhihehe 于 2011-10-21 15:29 发表
6月17日,主副,工程类4个7,7月4号就further了
给YMJ发信问为什么比我晚申请的人都下来了,我们至今无动静
CO回信说:由于我当时填表时候关于AFP那一项选的是还没有申请AFP,所以导致了"Schedule Refusal"
这就...

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刚刚可能接到过你的电话,你是在墨尔本?
AFP是需要在递交申请移民申请前完成的,继续关注你的申请。
可否将移民局的原文贴出。
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发表于 2011-10-22 13:48:53 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢您的回复,刚才是我给您打的电话,下边是CO的邮件原文:
I note that in your application you answered No to "have you applied for an AFP clearance" . I suspect your friends did applied before lodging their application. This is why your application is schedule for refusal. Unfortunately I am still waiting for direction from my supervisor in regards to the refusal and I don't know when I will obtain it. I hope this will clarify the discrepancies between your application and your friends
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发表于 2011-10-22 14:00:31 | 显示全部楼层
DECISION RECORD
APPLICANT:
Mr Jakub January Grabowski
MRT CASE NUMBER: 0907055
DIAC REFERENCE(S): BCC2009/105163
TRIBUNAL MEMBER: Kira Raif
DATE: 15 August 2011
PLACE OF DECISION: Sydney
DECISION: The Tribunal remits the application for a Skilled (Provisional) (Class VC) visa for reconsideration, with the direction that the applicant meets the following criteria for a Subclass 485 (Skilled - Graduate) visa:
  • cl.485.216 of Schedule 2 to the RegulationsSTATEMENT OF DECISION AND REASONS
    APPLICATION FOR REVIEW

  • This is an application for review of a decision made by a delegate of the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship to refuse to grant the applicant a Skilled (Provisional) (Class VC) visa under s.65 of the Migration Act 1958 (the Act).
  • The applicant applied to the Department of Immigration and Citizenship for the visa on 3 March 2009. The delegate decided to refuse to grant the visa on 12 August 2009 and notified the applicant of the decision and his review rights.
  • The delegate refused to grant the visa on the basis that the applicant did not satisfy cl.485.216 of Schedule 2 to the Migration Regulations 1994 (the Regulations) because the delegate was not satisfied that the application was accompanied by evidence that the applicant had applied for an AFP check.
  • The applicant applied to the Tribunal on 1 September 2009 for review of the delegate’s decision. The Tribunal finds that the delegate’s decision is an MRT-reviewable decision under s.338(2) of the Act. The Tribunal finds that the applicant has made a valid application for review under s.347 of the Act.RELEVANT LAW
  • The Skilled (Provisional) (Class VC) visa permits graduates of Australian educational institutions and people who have held certain temporary skilled visas to reside in Australia temporarily in order to obtain skills and qualifications required for permanent General Skilled Migration visas. At the time the visa application was lodged, the Skilled (Provisional) (Class VC) visa class contained the following subclasses: Subclass 485 (Skilled – Graduate) and Subclass 487 (Skilled – Regional Sponsored).
  • The criteria for a Subclass 485 visa are set out in Part 485 of Schedule 2 to the Regulations. One of the primary criteria to be satisfied at the time of application is that the application is accompanied by evidence of police checks: cl.485.216. The issue in the present case is whether the application was accompanied by evidence that the applicant had applied for an AFP check.CLAIMS AND EVIDENCE
  • The Tribunal has before it the Department’s file relating to the applicant. The Tribunal also has had regard to the material referred to in the delegate's decision, and other material available to it from a range of sources.
  • The applicant is a national of Poland, born in November 1982. He was first granted a Student visa in August 2003 and he has been granted a number of other visas since then. Between 2003 and 2005 the applicant completed an Advanced Diploma of International Business and from February 2006 to August 2008 he undertook a Bachelor of Business in Accounting at the Southern Cross University.
  • The applicant applied for the Skilled (Provisional) Class VC visa on 3 March 2009. Included with the application were various personal documents, evidence of the applicant’s educational qualifications, skills assessment, IELTS test results and other material.
  • On 12 August 2009 the delegate decided to refuse to grant the visa to the applicant. The delegate was not satisfied that the application was accompanied by evidence that the applicant had applied for the AFP police check. Accordingly, the delegate was not satisfied that the applicant met cl. 485.216.
  • The applicant sought review of the delegate’s decision on 1 September 2009. On 25 March 2011 the applicant provided a submission to the Tribunal, through his representative, in which he made the following claims. The applicant stated that he did provide two AFP certificates dated 10 July 2008 and 1 February 2009 with his application and stated that these had been misplaced by DIAC. He provided copies of two AFP certificates, dated July 2008 and February 2009 respectively, as evidence of having made arrangements to obtain the AFP certificate before making his visa application. The applicant stated that he meets cl. 485.216. The applicant outlined the steps he took to obtain the two AFP certificates and to post these materials to DIAC. He notes that DIAC had not requested him to provide these documents. The applicant referred to cases such asMevada v Minister for Immigration [2010] FMCA 616 (‘Mevada’), Habbib & Ors v Minister for Immigration [2010] FMCA 450 (‘Habbib’) and Berenguel v MIAC [2010] HCA 8 (‘Berenguel’) and submits that he can provide evidence of the AFP checks until the time of the Tribunal’s decision and that evidence has been provided, together with evidence of his skills assessment.
  • On 2 August 2011 the Tribunal wrote to DIAC seeking information about the inclusion of the police reports in the primary application. On 10 August 2011 DIAC provided to the Tribunal copies of its electronic records which make no reference to the provision of the AFP certificate with the primary application.FINDINGS AND REASONS
  • In reaching its decision the Tribunal did not consider a hearing to be necessary, as it was able to find in favour of the visa applicant on the basis of the material before it, pursuant to section 360(2)(a) of the Act.
  • The issue in the present case is whether the application was accompanied by evidence that the applicant had applied for the AFP check. The applicant argues, firstly, that he did apply for the AFP check and provided that evidence to DIAC with his application. In the alternative, the applicant argues that such evidence could be provided at any time. The applicant seeks to rely on authorities such as Mevada, Habbib and Berenguel, claiming that he can provide evidence of having applied for an AFP check at any time until the Tribunal’s decision is made.
  • To deal first with the latter submission, the Tribunal notes that the High Court in Berenguel v MIAC [2010] HCA 8 sought to distinguish the requirement in cl. 885.214 (which is similar, for present purposes, to cl. 485.216) and the English language proficiency requirement in other provisions, because in case of cl. 885.214 (and, equally, in the Tribunal’s view, cl. 485.216), the requirement that the application must be accompanied by evidence is contained in the provision itself and not merely in the heading (see Berenguel v Minister for Immigration and Citizenship [2010] HCA 8 at [17]). The Tribunal has formed the view that the authorities cited by the applicant do not extend to the provision in question and do not establish that the evidence required by cl. 485.216 can be met at any time before the decision is made. The Tribunal finds that the time of application requirement contained in cl. 485.216 does operate in a way that requires the application to be accompanied by the relevant evidence at the time when the application is made. The Tribunal finds that authorities such as Berenguel, Habbib and Mevada do not assist the applicant.
  • The applicant also argues that he did provide the AFP certificate with the application. The applicant provided a detailed description of the process he had employed when lodging the application, including obtaining the relevant documents, having the documents certified and taking these to the post office to lodge with his migration application. The applicant provided copies of the AFP certificates, dated July 2008 and February 2009, suggesting that both were obtained before his visa application was made.
  • The evidence before the Tribunal suggests that the applicant was well aware of the requirement to submit the AFP certificates with the application and that he had taken steps to obtain these certificates before he made the application. The Tribunal also finds the applicant’s evidence about the steps he took to lodge his application to be both credible and persuasive. It would appear to make little sense for the applicant, who was aware of the requirement in cl. 485.216, to obtain the AFP certificate and its update, but then not to include the certificates in his application, despite clearly taking great care when making the application.
  • The Tribunal has had regard to the Department’s electronic records which do not indicate that the AFP certificate was included in the application. However, it is not uncommon for such records to be less than fully accurate. The Tribunal considers it possible, as the applicant suggests, that some of the materials that he had submitted, may have been misplaced during the processing of the application or not recorded on the DIAC systems. The fact that the AFP certificates records do not appear on the DIAC electronic system is not, in the Tribunal’s view, determinative.
  • Having considered all the material before it and, in particular, having regard to the very thorough description that the applicant had provided of the steps he undertook to make the application and the fact that he did apply for two AFP certificates well before his application was made, the Tribunal is satisfied, on balance, that the applicant did include the AFP certificate with his application. The Tribunal is satisfied that the application was accompanied by evidence that each person included in the application who is at least 16 had applied for an AFP police check during 12 months immediately before the application was made. The Tribunal finds that the applicant meets cl. 485.216.CONCLUSIONS
  • Given the findings made above, the Tribunal remits the matter with a direction that the applicant meets cl.485.216.DECISION
  • The Tribunal remits the application for a Skilled (Provisional) (Class VC) visa for reconsideration, with the direction that the applicant meets the following criteria for a Subclass 485 (Skilled - Graduate) visa:
  • cl.485.216 of Schedule 2 to the RegulationsKira Raif
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    发表于 2011-10-22 14:10:49 | 显示全部楼层
    祝福楼主,多的帮不上了。
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    发表于 2011-10-22 14:18:01 | 显示全部楼层
    谢谢回帖
    可是他这个Case是申请之前做过AFP的,但是我们在申请之前确实没有做过,是申请之后一个月左右做的。我们已经补交进去了,移民局还是一定会拒签我们么?
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    发表于 2011-10-22 14:22:14 | 显示全部楼层
    中介之前一直说AFP可以后补,所以我们也没在意做没做
    CO第一封来信让补材料也没有问AFP,就说要同居证明和体检结果。
    CO第二封来信说在调查我的雅思成绩真实性。
    CO第三封来信就是上边贴出来的内容。
    前后历时4个月左右,CO从一开始就没有提到AFP的事情
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